Comments on: On dicks, rape and feminism

By: the millionizer

the millionizer — Sun, 24 May 2009 22:51:55 +0000

Really, you’ve got a point about them exposing themselves. However, that doesn’t excuse lizz for treating them as though what they see as feminism is invalid. there are as many brands of feminism as there are people who label themselves feminist.

By: really

really — Sun, 24 May 2009 20:42:45 +0000

so so so late to the party but you’re going out of your way to defend some alcoholics who exposed themselves for what they really are and aren’t: they’re not as funny and talented as they think they are. they are a lot more flawed and dime and dozen than they think they’re not.

By: the millionizer

the millionizer — Tue, 12 Aug 2008 21:20:09 +0000

enlighten us, oh random one.

By: Leanna

Leanna — Mon, 11 Aug 2008 21:09:38 +0000

Feminism is about doing whatever you want? Think again.

By: themillionizer

themillionizer — Tue, 22 Jul 2008 00:15:52 +0000

i’m proud of you. wtf is up with the bar for kicking you two out and not the douches? why were they even talking to you guys? so many questions

By: x

Mon, 21 Jul 2008 19:41:26 +0000

the Conster and i got kicked out of a bar for slapping (her) and punching (me) members of a group of 20-something skaters who called us cunts and bitches. my knuckles still hurt. you’d've been proud.

By: the millionizer

the millionizer — Wed, 16 Jul 2008 17:39:05 +0000

Brittanie: You made my point clearer than i did: [feminism is] doing exatcly what you want to do without listening to whatever it is society tells you you shouldnâ€™t do or say. Itâ€™s about fulfilling the role meant for you, not the role created for you.
EXACTLY! Lizz seemed to forget that.

Maria: Thanks! pot psychology has got to be the best thing on the internet right now and i am bummed that rich is gay because he is so hot.

By: maria

maria — Wed, 16 Jul 2008 05:31:30 +0000

Man, this is awesome. I have been reading Jezebel for months and have been reading Tracie’s stuff for a while (starting with her Vice piece about paying a prostitute to rape her) and felt the same way: that none of these people were remotely familiar with how Tracie & Moe act. I saw the videos without Liz’s article and thought it was par for the course for them, especially after watching Tracie on Pot Psychology every week. Anyway, i like this!

By: Brittanie

Brittanie — Wed, 16 Jul 2008 04:47:02 +0000

I knew a little bit about this thing but don’t keep up with all the blogs and forums involved (mostly, just Jezebel and One D). But I totally agree with you and thing Lizz comes off looking like a real patriarchal bitch here, what with the trying to conform others to her very narrow view of what makes a woman a feminist.

To me, feminism has always been about doing exatcly what you want to do without listening to whatever it is society tells you you shouldn’t do or say. It’s about fulfilling the role meant for you, not the role created for you. In other words, if a woman really, honestly wants to be a stay at home mom, then she should do that, because she wants to do it, not because society tells her she should. Likewise, if Moe wants to deal with her rape (and commenters on Jezebel have harassed her for this too) by acting blase about it, fucking let her be â€” she shouldn’t feel all up-arms simply because that’s how we’re taught to respond to rape and assault.

I don’t know what my point here is other than to say Liz W is a small-minded person for pulling this bullshit. But I guess I’m the same way â€” I still struggle with personal and ethical issues relating to my feminism â€” how to maintain my identity as a person and a woman while trying my best not to fall for the potholes left by patriarchy. So I guess we all have a long way to go and a lot more to learn.